What is #ExitPollGate?

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What is #ExitPollGate?

 

Greetings, my brothers, sisters, & others — I have something special for you all today! As I’ve already explained with the last two articles (here & here), it is of the utmost importance that we shed as much light as we can on the dishonesty & corruption of the DNC, the Clinton-Machine, & the corporate-media. We are also fighting for as many delegates as we can get at the convention-level & there are many different groups that are pursuing legal actions to undo the rampant voter-suppression that has occurred in many places, too.

We all have things that we can do for the movement and I urge all of you to find out what those things are that you, yourself, can do — ask yourselves, “What is the most effective thing that I can do to help Bernie Sanders continue fighting for us?” Then, do that!

My fight is with the Lame-Stream Media.

So — let’s get into it.

What the Corporate-Media Isn’t Telling You

Even as I write this, there are numerous legal actions taking place and now you’re probably wondering, “What is all this? What is ‘#ExitPollGate?’

My friend, I’m delighted you’ve asked! #ExitPollGate is a major — and I mean YUGE — red flag that we are being screwed big-time! You see, exit polls are one of the most basic ways that we detect election fraud. An exit poll is pretty much like a survey that they conduct at poll-stations on election day. The people who are doing the survey approach voters as they are leaving the polls — then, there’s a ton of boring questions (like age, gender, ethnicity, party-affiliation, etc.) — but there are also very interesting questions — questions like “who did you vote for?”

Unlike public opinion polls or pre-election polls — exit polls are done after a person has already voted. Remember that — it’s an important point. Other polls are more prone to being way off the mark because humans are often confused & they tend to change their minds in ways that no one can predict — but exit polls tend to be more accurate because they ask about something that’s already happened. Because of this crucial difference, a well-conducted exit poll should have a margin of error of ±2% and that’s pretty accurate!

This is the part where you get angry

Now, it’s not exactly a secret that a lot of the exit polls in the 2016 democratic primaries were way off. Naturally, this caught the attention of different organizations that try to watch out for us (like these guys) but, as it turns out, Edison (the exit poll company) doesn’t feel like turning over the raw exit poll data

Oh wait! I forgot to mention that the US allows polling companies to “adjust” the polling data to match the final results and, to make it even more democratic, it might be totally legal for them to withhold the real exit-polls. Which is definitely not weird or suspicious, at all. Seriously, this is true — the law is buried in the ironically-named “Help Americans Vote Act.”

Anyway — where were we? Oh — so, Edison, the exit poll company, won’t release the raw exit poll data and the corporate-media only shows “adjusted” exit polls to the public. Now, prepare to be infuriated — once we started making a bit of a fuss over having access to the raw (or un-tampered-with) exit poll data, the corporate-media canceled all the remaining exit polls. And that, my friends, is basically why #ExitPollGate is really important.

And it just keeps getting more & more crazy

Alright, friends — so far, I’ve told you that:

  1. Exit polls are a basic way to detect election fraud. They are not proof of fraud, all by themselves — but significant differences between the exit polls & the reported results are a fairly strong indicator that something is wrong.
  2. Both Edison, the exit poll company, & the corporate-media consortium that pays them refuse to release the raw exit poll data to the public.
  3. As soon as a few organizations began raising questions about the exit polls, they cancelled all remaining exit polls (from Oregon & Kentucky onward they haven’t done exit polling).
  4. Apparently, it is common practice in the US to “adjust” exit polls without telling you & without disclosing the data or why they “adjusted” them.

Your elected officials, the Democratic Party, & the Lame-Stream Media are all perfectly OK with this and here’s the funniest part: they expect you to be okay with this, too. But I’m guessing that you’re not.

Now, I’m predicting that, pretty quickly, the trolls will arrive by the dozens, all pointing to recent articles (written by the same people who canceled the exit polls, of course) claiming that “exit polls don’t matter, somehow.” Well, let’s just get this one out of the way — the US government doesn’t think so. Here’s a link to a handbook, published by USAID, on detecting election fraud in other countries and they seem to be under the impression that exit poll discrepancies are a pretty good indicator of fraud. But what do they know? Or maybe election fraud only happens in other countries & the handbook doesn’t work in the USA?

And one last thing! The reason that people have been interested in the exit polls is that there are some some fairly shocking discrepancies between them & the final results — discrepancies that seem just a little bit — hmm, what’s the word I’m looking for? Lopsided, maybe? Ah, well — see for yourself! Here’s a graph:

Courtesy of Richard Charnin
Courtesy of Richard Charnin

 

As the mathematician Richard Charnin notes, in his blog — it seems that, out of 26 states that had exit-polling, 24 showed Bernie Sanders with more votes than the final results showed — and 11 of them exceeded the margin of error, some of them quite dramatically & all but 2 out of 26 showed Clinton got more votes than the exit polls said she should’ve gotten. 

But it’s cool — there’s absolutely no reason that you should need to look at the exit poll data. It’s probably all random — some kind of freak occurrence, you know?

 

To Sum It All Up

[UPDATE, 6/21: Please read “No Democracy, No Unity,” which adds to the information in this article — & share them both, please! The media won’t report all of this, so we have to pick up the slack!]

My friends — thank you for bearing with me through this almost-too-long article on exit polls. I felt that this was important information to bring to you — and, now, I’m going to ask for your help, if you would all be so kind —

Will you make sure that this information reaches literally everyone in the United States of America? I’m sure you could manage it!

The more people who know about this, the better! I will write again, very soon — but, in the meantime, spread this around, along with other informative articles & memes. Please, please, please — keep #ExitPollGate going! The corporate-media is plugging their ears & humming right now, trying to pretend that we don’t exist & hoping that we’ll all just go away — let’s wake them up from that delusion! Let them know that we’re done playing their game & that we are here now, we will be there, at the Convention& we will soon be at the White House, listening to Bernie Sanders’ inaugural speech!

Oh — and, of course, let them know that we’ll #SeeYouInPhilly

In solidarity,
John Laurits #SeeYouInPhilly
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  1. There is a simple solution to election fraud, but it’s not easy.
    Grass roots mobilization of volunteers to do exit polls at every polling place in the 2016 general election. Poll all day from opening until closing. Don’t just do a sampling. Don’t use stupid forms that ask a bunch of worthless questions. People don’t have time for such crap. Just ask everyone you can who they voted for President and Congress as they exit and record that info. That data is the only relevant data anyway. Who cares about age or income or race or why they made their choice.
    I think a place online for people to upload their data periodically throughout the day would work. It would need to be recorded under their state, county and precinct. I think the volunteers would also need to register and sign up for a location with the web site and maybe sign a pledge of honesty and integrity. We need to utilize the power of the people and technology.

    I would volunteer to do this and anything else to make this happen.

    This is the continuing of the revolution. Don’t let this election be stolen by either party. Don’t let up. We have come to far to just give up. We need fair and honest elections regardless of the outcome. This will crush the establishment of both parties and the Lame Steam Media like nothing else can. It will shine the light of truth on their lies, deceptions and arrogance. This is the true power of the people at work. We need to roll up our sleeve and go to work.

    As I said, this is not an easy task, but doable. The Bernie campaign and supporters should be on the forefront of this task. They have the most skin in the game They already have the machine in place. It just needs to be turned on again and given the task.

    Screw the so called “pollsters”. They are paid off by the establishment. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

    Grass roots revolution is the only thing that will save our country at this time in history.
    The power and the will of the people can and must prevail. We can beat them. We must keep them on the constantly on the defense so they can’t mount their offense.
    Make the establishment cronies and their lackeys feel the real Bern where it counts.
    Send them a loud and clear message….WE KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WE ARE GOING TO STOP YOU!

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  17. Thank you for your activism and support of Bernie’s revolution. Unfortunately I have some problems with your analysis. My training is in the social sciences. From that perspective there is no reason to suppose that voters voting for different candidates may not be different from another candidate’s supporters in many ways. Indeed, a prime focus of exit polls are the differences in different candidates’ supporters. Those differences could certainly include willingness to participate in exit polls.

    You also refer to USAID’s guide on “Assessing and Verifying Election Results.” From the guide:

    “Detecting fraud: Exit polls provide data that is generally indicative of how people voted. A discrepancy between the aggregated choices reported by voters and the official results may suggest, but not prove, that results have been tampered with.”
    . . .
    “Verifying official results: Exit polls do not provide sufficient evidence to refute or challenge official results, either at the national level or for individual polling stations” (p.4)

    The guide lists election forensics as a superior form of election verification. Election forensics ” involves post-election statistical analyses of results and other official data
    to identify possible irregularities” (ibid.) In my interchange with Richard Charnin (who provided the information for your graphic above) in comments on his associated blog article he shared some links which I think are fairly described as election forensics (https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/democratic-primaries-426-exit-poll-anomalies-continued/#comment-10570).

    Here is the one which looked at the 2004 presidential election results that stood out for me:

    http://www.electionmathematics.org/em-exitpolls/USCV_exit_poll_analysis.pdf I am not smart enough to criticize this in any detail, but can follow the general line of argument. As far as I can go with it I find Baiman, Dodge, & Dopp’s analysis bolsters the election fraud case, but is not comprehensive enough to dismiss the great variety of possible sociological variables involved to make a conclusive case. I have searched for peer review which is in general the best way to get a critical reading in fields outside your area of expertise, but have not been able to find anything yet.

    I want to applaud you for your communication skills. Several people have commented on how you have helped them understand very complicated material, something I am greatly challenged by. And thanks again for your support for a democratic America.

    Cheers, Paul

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  18. Thank you for your activism and support of Bernie’s revolution. Unfortunately I have some problems with your analysis. My training is in the social sciences. From that perspective there is no reason to suppose that voters voting for different candidates may not be different from another candidate’s supporters in many ways. Indeed, a prime focus of exit polls are the differences in different candidates’ supporters. Those differences could certainly include willingness to participate in exit polls.

    You also refer to USAID’s guide on “Assessing and Verifying Election Results.” From the guide:

    “Detecting fraud: Exit polls provide data that is generally indicative of how people voted. A discrepancy between the aggregated choices reported by voters and the official results may suggest, but not prove, that results have been tampered with.”
    . . .
    “Verifying official results: Exit polls do not provide sufficient evidence to refute or challenge official results, either at the national level or for individual polling stations” (p.4)

    The guide lists election forensics as a superior form of election verification. Election forensics ” involves post-election statistical analyses of results and other official data
    to identify possible irregularities” (ibid.) In my interchange with Richard Charnin (who provided the information for your graphic above) in comments on his associated blog article he shared some links which I think are fairly described as election forensics (https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/democratic-primaries-426-exit-poll-anomalies-continued/#comment-10570).

    Here is the one which looked at the 2004 presidential election results that stood out for me: http://www.electionmathematics.org/em-exitpolls/USCV_exit_poll_analysis.pdf I am not smart enough to criticize this in any detail, but can follow the general line of argument. As far as I can go with it I find Baiman, Dodge, & Dopp’s analysis bolsters the election fraud case, but is not comprehensive enough to dismiss the great variety of possible sociological variables involved to make a conclusive case. I have searched for peer review which is in general the best way to get a critical reading in fields outside your area of expertise, but have not been able to find anything yet.

    I want to applaud you for your communication skills. Several people have commented on how you have helped them understand very complicated material, something I am greatly challenged by. And thanks again for your support for a democratic America.

    Cheers, Paul

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  19. […] A visit to the group’s website (http://blackboxvoting.org/) indicates the vote tampering Harris uncovered continues to be widespread. Big discrepancies between exit polls and “official” (machine tabulated) results suggest that vote rigging is even more widespread today than it was ten years ago. If anything these discrepancies are worse than ever in 2016. See What is #Exitpollgate? […]

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  20. […] A visit to the group’s website (http://blackboxvoting.org/) indicates the vote tampering Harris uncovered continues to be widespread. Big discrepancies between exit polls and “official” (machine tabulated) results suggest that vote rigging is even more widespread today than it was ten years ago. If anything these discrepancies are worse than ever in 2016. See What is #Exitpollgate? […]

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  21. Ok so I get that instead of counting votes, we should trust the polls which have shown to be very consistent and reliable this year (note I am being sarcastic). so If we trust all the polls showing Hillary vs Bernie, there is a little trend that emerges (source RCP). Can anyone spot the trend? That’s right, just three polls showing Bernie in the lead (by a Yuge 2 point margin). Every other poll showing Hillary anything from 1 to 18 points ahead.

    Clinton +14
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    Clinton +14
    Clinton +8
    Clinton +7
    Clinton +8
    Clinton +6
    Clinton +5
    Clinton +12
    Clinton +2
    Clinton +2
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    Sanders +1
    Clinton +1
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    Clinton +18
    Clinton +13
    Sanders +1
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    So I am guessing that it would collerate that Hillary should have a similar spread of delegates? Guess what, she has a 10 point spread in delegates, so not really seeing the conspiracy. the “corporate media” you might just have noticed are not exactly big Hillary fans. Might just be, that Hillary has got more votes, more delegates and more super delegates.

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    • So, Time Warner, Viacom, & others were just donating million$ to Clinton’s campaign for fun? Also, you are ignoring a key detail, which is the significant, logical, & historically well-established differences between the accuracy of pre-election opinion polls & exit-polls. Opinion polls will *always* be partially confounded by people who change their minds, while exit polls obviously are not subject to this confounding variable &, thusly, as reason dictates, are more reliable.

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  22. The question is, why are the results of the voting different from the exit polls? The people who count the votes can’t be making up the numbers to suit their preferences, because there must be committee members from both sides of the fence. The only logical explanation is voting machine fraud.

    A couple of researchers from Princeton have demonstrated that a fraudulent program can be installed in a voting machine in less than one minute, and that it can be created in such a way that it infects all other machines connected to the first one. What’s more, the program self-destructs at the end of the voting session, leaving no evidence. So it’s one thing to claim fraud on the basis of exit polls, and another to prove it when the proof, which is virtual, not physical, has disappeared forever.

    Legitimate elections are impossible as long as electronic voting machines continue to be used.

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  23. I have been writing about the exit poll discrepancies and the forced match to the recorded vote since 2004. I debated many naysayers online who said that exit polls were junk and that Bush really did win. Finally, because of the fraudulent primaries, the fact that unadjusted exit polls are forced to match the recorded vote has become common knowledge.

    In the Democratic primaries, the unadjusted exit polls exceeded the margin of error in 11 of 26 elections – a 1 in 77 billion probability !I wrote two books proving election fraud is systemic and showed that presidential elections were stolen in 1988, 2000, and 2004.

    This post links to residential unadjusted stae and national exit poll data from 1988-2008. Of the 274 state exit polls, 135 exceeded the margin of error – 131 in favor of the Republican. The probability is 1 in trillions. Read the proof on my blog: https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/1988-2008-unadjusted-state-exit-polls-statistical-reference/

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  24. I’m confused – first it is reported that the exit polling company refuses to release raw data, and then it is reported that the exit polls show significant discrepancies.

    What am I m missing?

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  25. http://youtu.be/q_qgVn-Op7Q

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  26. PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LAWSUIT TOO! They have spectacular evidence they present! THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL. 😉 They say Bernie actually won! It will be announced…..see what you think. Watch the entire video to see all the detailed evidence they have.

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  27. TY John for all your hard work to keep up all informed!! A couple questions though….in the graph above I assume we do have the raw exit poll data..so which states/counties are they refusing to release the raw numbers? And am I correct in understanding that only the states from Oregon and Kentucky onward had no exit polling done at all? And where/how can we put pressure to release those true numbers?

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  28. Still waiting to hear about Oregon Primary final vote results. Should be over 60% for Sanders…

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  29. Most exit polls are unreliable for these Primaries for one very simple reason, they exclude mail in votes.

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      • I have read that the Democratic Party down-ballot contests and all Republican elections – including their Presidential Primary – were inside the margin of error. The only discrepant contest was the Democratic Party Presidential Primary.

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        • But the Bernie-Hillary contest may have been the only one in which age had a huge impact on preference. People who vote by mail tend to be older, and hence tend to prefer HIllary. If exit poll analyses are to be used to prove fraud, this phenomenon must be accounted for.

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      • Not really if you think about it. Bernie has got stronger as he campaigns, so Hillary picks up a higher percentage early on, then the gap narrows. I just don’t buy the whole conspiracy angle. Some of the polls do look odd, but I think there is so much demographic distortions ALL the polls are just unreliable. We see one poll showing Hillary with a 18 point spread one day, then the next day we see a poll where it’s down to 2 points.

        I do a agree with you on the NY voter purge though, that looks well dodgy….

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        • Choosing not to stick your head in the sand about these issues, and to speak up about them is not conspiracy theories. It’s called critical thinking.
          The last thing the establishment wants.
          Thank you, john…for bringing these issues forward.

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    • And it is widely acknowledged that voters-by-mail tend to be older, which is HIllary’s demographic. So you would expect exit polls to understate her total support.

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    • Not correct! A sample of responses from a given location WILL yeild very accurate information about the electorate . . . .which corresponds with mail in ballots as well!

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  30. There were privately done exit polls in CA, in Contra Costa, Santa Clara and Alameda Counties. They showed more of the same, and I believe even worse.

    From: the writing of john laurits To: mickey_94114@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:38 PM Subject: [New post] What is #ExitPollGate? #yiv2321655094 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv2321655094 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv2321655094 a.yiv2321655094primaryactionlink:link, #yiv2321655094 a.yiv2321655094primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv2321655094 a.yiv2321655094primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv2321655094 a.yiv2321655094primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv2321655094 WordPress.com | John Laurits posted: “What is #ExitPollGate? Greetings, my brothers, sisters, & others — I have something special for you all today! As I’ve already explained with the last two articles (here & here), it is of the utmost importance that we shed as m” | |

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  31. THANK YOU John, as an Aussie who has been hearing the term non-stop, I now at last know what exit polls actually are. I also know why everyone has been jumping up and down about the media refusing to release the exit polls and why they are refusing to release them. All I can say is, keep sticking that size 11 boot where it hurts until they get rid of the superdelegates once and for all. The rest of the system is a shambles too, but that is the worst part of it all: people who have a financial reason to support or oppose a particular candidate – and let their immorality get in the way of democracy and justice.

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  32. Your posts are Never ‘too long!’ They – and You – have kept me from utter despair. I cannot begin to tell you how much your hard work means to us Berners I share your articles on FB + Twitter (even tho they’re already shared there, I tweet them again.) I have a friend who’s 85yo. She’s for Bernie, but she keeps watching/reading MSM. (Dammit.) She thought H had really won. sigh. I’ve Tried to explain the numbers to her but . . . I’ve finally started sending your articles to her. I think that’s helping! NOW, she believes me because she’s seen it ‘in print.’ 🙂
    Thank You for all the hard work and Time you’ve put into this series!
    in solidarity!

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  33. WHEW! THANKS FOR CONFIRMING MY ALREADY DISILLUSIONED AND DISGUSTED VIEWS OF OUR POLITICAL SCENE AND THE CRIMINALS WHO HAVE CREATED IT! I’M NOT BEING SARCASTIC…I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND CLARITY IN HELPING US UNDERSTAND THIS MESS!

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  34. Thanks for sharing this. Exit polls are a good measure, though not perfect, indicator of election integrity. And with all this funny stuff happening at the polls in this particular primary, it’s needed now more than ever to ensure certain candidates aren’t cheating, and hiding these numbers only seem to be complicit with cheating.

    Expose these frauds!

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    • I’m doing my best — this post is actually a primer for the next one (which will include video!) &, though I can’t say anything now, I think that the two posts together will be pretty compelling — so keep yer ear to the ground! Peace

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      • I find it really funny that a group that refers to itself as The People’s Math Front consistently demonstrates a complete a total lack of understanding of basic math, statistics and knowledge of how polling actually works. Just because you don’t like the numbers doesn’t make them wrong or the system rigged. The people who have stoked these conspiracy theories have done so much damage and given you so much misinformation it is incredible. The elections were not stolen. The polls were not rigged. To continue this mockery is insulting to both HEC and Sanders.

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        • Craig — would you say the same thing if the exit polls had differed so sharply from the results in Iraq, when we were monitoring their elections? Because, if you’d take a minute to read the USAID election assessment PDF that I’ve cited, you’d know that it is not ME who proposed that exit poll discrepancies suggest election fraud — this is the standard that our own government uses. The same government for whose office these two candidates are competing. It’s simple & it makes sense — when the official results differ from the exit polling, that’s fishy & it should be investigated. How is that not obvious? Your criticism seems to be based, not on reason, but on denial. Whether I like the numbers or not doesn’t matter — what matters is the question “do the results differ from the exit polls?” Yes, they do — no amount of me liking or not liking can change that fact one bit.

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          • Primary polls and exit polls are notoriously off the mark. This makes them neither rigged or ineffective as tools. MoE can vary in pollsters and the different standards they have to collect the data can make a difference as well. I suggest you read 538 and Sam Wang’s election consortium to learn about these things. Just because you consider a person, company or blog to be part of the MSM (whatever that really is) doesn’t mean they aren’t correct. Exit polls are unreliable…especially in primaries. You have a small group of people from several small areas from different demographics. There is so much noise in these that they just cannot be trusted. When 538 or benchmark cite exit polls and calling races it is because they have demographic benchmarks for all of the different counties. They also see the vote results earlier than you do on-line. They can see that X county, which has a demographic make-up that should be HRC +15 is coming in at HRC +25 (and growing). Based on the amounts of these results, multiplied over many, many counties they can see that HRC is going to win a state. that allows them to call a state with just 20-30% of the votes in (sometimes less).

            More accurate than exit polls…the actual results…which showed HRC winning this primary quite handily. It really wasn’t all that close. The elections weren’t rigged. You are cherry-picking certain states and counties that HRC won, yet amazingly, you never point out states that Sanders won as being rigged. If it is so easy to cheat, then maybe Sanders cheated to win the states he won? Of course he didn’t, not because he is pure, but because that is ridiculous. Conspiracy theorists on the left are as damaging to the truth as conspiracy theorists on the right (Alex Jones and Infowars for example that think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy). The People’s Math Front should consider how many different people would have to be colluding to pull off the fraud that you are accusing them of…here’s a hint…the likelihood of what you are suggesting is almost completely impossible & the odds so astronomical against it.

            Sanders and his people stoked this fire because it helped them get people fired up, to donate money and to give you all the illusion that he could win. The reality is Sanders was never close after March 15th and he, and all bloggers who told you he was, lied to you. Some lied willingly to push their own agendas (Sanders, Goodman and Abramson) and many others lied because it fit the narrative they wanted to tell and the narrative they liked (their guy was still in it against the big, bad establishment and he was going to win).

            Was there some fraud? I am sure there was. I am sure that in some areas people voted FOR BOTH CANDIDATES that shouldn’t have. The voter purge in Brooklyn was stupid, but didn’t change anything. Most of those people were likely dead or moved out of Brooklyn + this was an area that was always good for HRC and she did well there…why would she purge her own people? AZ…terrible…but that was the GOP who made a mess of the voting and this most likely hurt HRC more than Sanders.

            How about caucuses that favored Sanders, yet clearly suppressed voter turnout? In NE and WA, when people could actually vote freely HRC won easily. You have no problem with that voter suppression, though. How about Sanders supporters on video telling voter in MA to just make up where they loive so they can vote in the primary? You were okay with that fraud. How about the Sanders campaign hacking into HRC database? You were okay with that cheating. How about Sanders people lying and pretending to be other people to infiltrate a union area to influence voters that they knew they were not allowed to access? You were okay with that cheating. In fact, there is more direct evidence that Sanders people cheated than HRC people cheated, yet you gloss over these details.

            The debates were not scheduled at great times…I agree with you. However, this isn’t 1984…people watch the debates on Youtube or stream them at a later time. Even this was not as big a deal as you made it out to be.

            HRC and her speeches…so what? There is ZERO evidence this has ever affected her voting. HRC and Sanders voted the same 93% of the time. HRC is more liberal than Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy, JFK and LBJ…are those guys Republicans, too?

            What about Sanders tax returns? What about Sanders abandonment of his child and not providing any child support for over 10 years? What about Jane sanders destroying Burlington College? It appears that she falsified loan documents and crushed this school…that’s kind of a big deal, no?

            You lash out at groups you don’t agree with and question their motives, yet you don’t question the other side of the fence with the same standards,,,and the reality is that your biggest problem with these “MSM” and “establishment” groups isn’t that they have done something wrong (in almost every case they haven’t), it is that you don’t like what they have to say. The internet has allowed people to seek out echo-chambers where the only “news” and information they get is exactly what they want to hear. Sanders lost…nothing was rigged…this is reality and I hope that you (or some of your readers) can actually hear it.

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          • Wow. You’ve made me aware that Sanders is really a big player in this Presidential election. He has a big chance of winning. Finally, someone found something negative to say about him. He isn’t perfect, after all, and I’m still behind him.

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          • I used to be a big fan of Nate Silver, but unfortunately he and 538 have become little more than a Hillary blog since they hooked up with NYT.

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        • Wake up! Where do you get your information?????
          I’d like to know your basis for this assumption!
          My feeling is your frame of reference is polluted with MSM narrative!

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        • Wow, How uninformed can one be? Trust vote.org filed a Racketeering lawsuit against the main stream media for this very subject- exit polls. This lawsuit includes the DNC. Election Justice USA also filed suit in NY, we still don’t have final vote tallies in Oregon, NY, Puerto Rico and California! Ask yourself why??? The exit polls are not rigged, but there is clearly election fraud going on when the ticker tapes from the voting machines are being inaccurately reported in favor of HRC. Go look this up, research! #FactCheck #NeverHillary #Sanders2016

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    • Actually if you follow or have heard Richard Charnin speak on the matter, Exit polls ARE the BEST indicator of fraud. If a result outside the margin of error occurs, you can bet that fraud is the reason! Also, the more people polled the smaller the margin of error so if you poll 100 people the MOE might be close to 2% but is you polled 1500 people the result would be accurate to less than 1% . . . . So you see, without knowing how many people were polled, we are being generous giving a 2% margin of error!

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